Is the Indian Army overrated?
Anjit, Seen the men in Olive green.
Man, you’ve got balls. But I’ll try to convince you to change your opinion.
By over rated, I think you meant all of these.
3.Medical service to family .
4.blah blah and blah
and you also might have meant this below.
This my friend, if you don’t know is Captain Saurabh Kalia at his Passing Out Parade. Proud parents, proud relatives and friends and a lot of happy faces right ?
Now I’ll tell you, what happened to our great Captain Saurabh Kalia 6-months into the service.
On 15 May 1999 Lt Saurabh Kalia and five other soldiers of the 4 Jat Regiment had gone for a routine patrol of the Bajrang Post in the Kaksar sector in the rugged, treeless Ladakh mountains. They were captured alive by the Pakistani rangers and brutally tortured to death .
Post-mortem examinations revealed that the Pakistanis had tortured their prisoners by: burning their bodies with cigarettes, piercing the ear-drums with hot rods, puncturing eyes before removing them, breaking most of their teeth and bones, fracturing their skulls, cutting the lips, chipping of nose, chopping off limbs and private organs of the soldiers, and finally shooting them dead, as evidenced by bullet wounds to the temple. The post-mortem also confirmed the injuries were inflicted ante-mortem (before death).
Our brother was so horrendously and brutally murdered .
Still not convinced enough ?
See that. That is the mother of Lt Ummer fayaz crying over her 22 years old son’s dead body. 22 years GOD DAMN IT !!! JUST 22 YEARS OLD .
Britain: We are seeking from the Indian Army a full report of the postmortem, unfortunately without any success so far.
Israel: Israel does not have diplomatic relations with Pakistan.
Germany: They had contacted the ministry of external affairs and had not received a reply.
Pakistan denied the torture of the six soldiers and rejected India's demand to punish the guilty.
Wanna ask the father of Captain Saurabh Kalia what he thinks.
"I am ashamed of being an Indian. The country has spineless leaders,"
Now do you think its over rated?
yes silence it is .
Jai Hind .
Akshay Gupta, Loves every thing about Indian Army
Have you ever heard of a 19 year old who was hit by 15 bullets and still went on fighting and killed enemy with bare hands? No is the word I assume you just uttered.
It was way past midnight and a unit was tasked to attack Tiger Hill. They had to follow a tactic which would rightfully be called most difficult ever employed in an open battlefield. 3 bunkers of Pakistan Army were located at top of that hill and they had seemingly impossible task of climbing up the hill and taking down 3 enemy bunkers.
The climb was steep, slippery and rocky and someone had to climb to the top, fix a rope, so that others can climb. Yogender Singh Yadav, of Granadiers battalion volunteered for this. While he was halfway, the enemy opened fire, he was hit in his crotch and shoulders while his Platoon commander and two other soldiers were martyred. Wounded and bleeding heavily, perhaps no other person could have dared to walk into enemy installations but you are talking about super soldiers from Indian Army. Yadav continued his climb and crawled for 60 feet.
When he reached the top, one of the bunker opened fire at him and what Yadav did will blow your mind. He threw a grenade which killed the enemy soldier in the bunker. If that was not enough, he and his fellow soldiers killed four Pakistani soldiers with bare hands and captured 3rd bunker as well.
Subedar Singh had a broken leg, shattered arm and multiple bullet injuries and was rushed to hospital. It was assumed that he wont survive this and Param Vir Chakra was announced for Yadav posthumously. But, no, death had not been able to defeat this super soldier. He received Param Vir Chakra at the age of 19.
I want you to remember this hero and remember that underrated might just be the word but, without a single iota of doubt, definitely not overrated.
Subedar Singh腿部骨折，手臂骨折，身上多處中彈，被送往醫院。人們認為他活不過這一關。但是，不，死神也不無法打敗這個超級戰士。他在19歲時被授予Param Vir Chakra勛章。
Naman Chakraborty, Regular Indian
Let’s find it out through a slightly different route brother.
The total budget outlay of Pakistan is about: USD 44 Billion
The total direct tax receipts in Pakistan are: USD 12.8 Billion
The total amount of loans Pakistan took last year: USD 7.83 Billion
The total value of all Pakistani exports last year: USD 1.8 Billion
Money Pakistan spends on the health of its citizens - USD 109.8 Million
Money Pakistan spends on the education of its citizens - USD 715.4 Million
Pakistan’s Defence Budget - USD 8.77 Billion
Had Pakistan been a family with a monthly income of Rs 100 - it would be spending less than Rs. 2 on the health and education of its children and Rs. 20 on employing a jealous guard, who throws stones at the neighbor’s house, every time a family member speaks to them.
This guard regularly abuses the kids - sells them heroin- runs a bakeryon the sides - has never won a fight with anyone above the age of 5- and still gets to sleep in the master bedroomat night.
Whenever someone in the family tries to question the hegemony of this rowdy character - the guard quickly takes out a picture from his pocket, and everyone just shuts up and endures.
Here’s that picture Brother:
Is the Indian Army over rated? -
That overpaid guard, currently lounging in the master bedroom of his employer, busy watching TV, munching on someone else’s lunch - remote in hand - does not think so.
Citizens of Bangladesh, who would be celebrating the 46th anniversary of their Independence this December - do not think so.
The Chinese deploying more troopson the India border - do not think so.
Thousands of thankful citizens of the world saved in the recent peacekeeping operations undertaken by the Indian Army - do not think so.
How about you…
Roland Bartetzko, former German Army Paratrooper, Croatian Defense Council, Kosovo Liberation Army
People tend to overrate their own military forces while, at the same time, they underrate those of their enemies. This is often the result of the enthusiasm of the youth, nationalism, and sometimes propaganda.
As there are many more internet (and Quora) users from India than from Pakistan (which is the only foreign nation that cares about the Indian Army), there will always be more articles and posts around that praise and overrate the Indian Army than the opposite.
Military experts, on the other hand, do not rate, overrate, or underrate a country’s military; they do assessments. All the rankings you can see on YouTube about which country has the toughest/hardest/best/... military are done by amateurs that haven’t done more than five minutes internet research on the subject. As many of these bloggers come from India, the Indian Army ranks higher than it maybe deserves.
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The few military experts that are dealing with the Indian army agree on the fact that the Indian Army isn’t at the same level with most Western military forces. Although they are modernizing, most units still have old and inadequate equipment.
Regarding the fighting capability of the Indian army, there isn’t really that much to analyse. The only enemy they have been fighting against in recent years were insurgents and the Pakistani Army. It might be hard to swallow for the proud and patriotic Indian internet community, but a Pakistani infantry unit has about the same level of performance as their Indian counterparts.
Otherwise, military experts would have looked up and taken a keener interest in the matter. When the Islamic State overrun the city of Mosul in 2014, there wasn’t a serious military publication in the world that didn’t publish an analysis on the issue. How was it possible that a less than one hundred men strong insurgent force had outclassed a much stronger US equipped and trained defender?
Many military historians are still fascinated by the German military of World War II. There is still something to learn from the excellent military organisation and performance of the Wehrmacht.
That the world isn’t more interested in the Indian military shows that it’s rather average. Of course, they have a lot of excellent infantry units and special forces (I had myself the privilege to jump with an Indian paratrooper), but we shouldn’t forget that the Indian Army is very big, and you cannot properly assess a military organisation by looking only at the elite units.
Kaushal Kumar, Officer at Ministry of Defence, India
I do not understand why people got emotional when this question was asked by someone. It is good that you want to know it. Let me tell you something about it:
1.I give you my example: During recent Kerala floods relief operation, I was in-charge of one of the armed forces wing of the a district. My phone used to get bombarded with calls and Watsapp messages (since our number was broadcasted). I used to get more than 1000 calls/messages every day. Since we were busy in operation, it was impossible for me to attend calls (it was heavily raining all the time) but still i used to attend some of them and gave them assurance that we will come to pick them up. My men were working heavily under stress, day and night. Many got injuries which grew with time because of being wet all the time. We used to have food just once in a day. They never complained for getting less rest (around 4 hours for 4 days). I am sure that we were not able to get every men out, in spite of putting all my efforts. But, surprisingly, we got equally large number of messages after the operation, thanking us for all the support. Do you feel people overrated us? In reality we were not able to reach all of them. But i knew i gave in my best. And i think people gave equal love in return.
2.Indian army soldiers are not busy in wasting their time thinking whether they are overrated or not. Soldiers and officers are directed to stay away from such debates. Debate is fine, but a stupid debate is NOT FINE. Even if we are overrated, it is because of the love from the country’s citizens. Nobody from the army goes and advertises to overrate themselves.
3.A survey done by an independent international agency of high credentials put Indian army service as one of the “most stressful” service.
4.They are operating in some of the world’s toughest living places of the world. Those places have witnessed more casualties in peace time (because of weather) than in war.
5.Indian army have lost more number of men than any other country in UN Peacekeeping expeditions.
6.If you feel, a soldier is free in peacetime, read my detailed answer on it.
7.Because of our countries economic difficulties, our budgets are one of the lowest when it comes to per soldier expenditure.
8.While other countries get to see long duration's of peace, unfortunately, we are at war with our own people (half the terrorists in J & K are from Kashmir and than WE ALSO HAVE YOU). The picture below has become a everyday scheme. Now, imagine your daughter here and let me know if WE ARE STILL OVERRATED.
8.當其他國家享受著長期和平時，很不幸，我們與自己的人民還處于戰爭中(在J & K的恐怖分子有一半來自克什米爾)。下面的圖片已成日常。現在，想象一下你的女兒在這里，如果你覺得我們還是被高估了，請告訴我。
Alcatraz Dey, Human, Endurance Biker & Author (2018-present)
Oh, yes it is too overrated!
And hence lakhs of young men and women every year write NDA, CDSE and similar exams.
Candidates stretch their limits and attempt SSB as far fetched as 16–18 times.
That is why people such as Manoj Pandey and Sam Manekshaw are admired and treated as heroes.
That is why an entire nation paid tributes when one MR. Unnikrishnan fought bravely and became a martyr.
That is why many people dream of wearing that uniform.
That is why civilians give up their seats for soldiers in the bus and the train.
And that is exactly why we all are still safe despite hostile neighbours.
Indian Army is too overrated because it lets us be free so that we can go and molest women, pay bribes, break traffic rules and ask such questions.
It is overrated because still there are parents who will not let their child to join forces and expect the country to be safe.
Damn, so much hype!
Of course yes! Indian army is way too much overrated.
Let’s take an example.
A recent video that has been going viral, shows a woman from Sangli, Maharashtra touching an Army man’s feet to show her gratitude.
A woman in India isn’t allowed to touch anyone’s feet. Still, the video is catching a lot of positive eyes.
When we pray to God to save us, he never appears. INDIAN ARMY does.
There may be a million people in India who doesn't believe in God. But you can’t point a single person in India who don’t believe in the Indian Army.
And did I forget the youth of India? Ask any youth who’s their hero, they will definitely answer ‘The Indian Army’.
Now coming to the question;
Is Indian Army overrated?
Yes. Of course yes. Because they deserve to be overrated.